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Billy

Rotary Machine

is any one useing them am looking in to trying them out so has any one got any usefull tips Question
dun scratchin

i got a stigma rotary bizare last week
dont know if i like it yet the stroke on it is about 5 mm ive lined with it ok but scared of going too deep it seems to colour ok but im scared of going too deep then i dont go deep enough
i havent sussed out shading with it yet but im still testing it
so far its a back up if my coil machines f**k up all at once
they did last week Evil or Very Mad
gassa farrell

ive used rotarys years ago my first machine i bought of a supplier at the time was a budget rotary machine from a company called ultra tattooing lol i bet you never heard of them lol they used to have a place above a sex shop in bradford  it was ran by tony linxs  who went on to bring out tattoo factory  im showing my age here lol i found rotarys good machines but they can spit ink all over the place its getting the speed right on them but thier good for large tattoos because the spring never gets hot because theres none you must of come a cross it before when doing tribal it goes great then stops going in so good well thats the machine spring getting soft with working so long  and the ink getting blood in it  with a rotary machine it goes on the same all the time  but i like the coil machines i like to hear them going
magnu

I've used rotarys for about nine years tried several sorts even had some made but now use the stealth rotaries originally supplied by global. I was a convert from day one, far lighter and less temperamental than a vibratory, no ink spatter and will drive an 11 mag all day and not miss a beat
Rotary's aren't to everyone's taste they can take a bit of getting used to and some folks will prefer the weight of a vibratory and the noise but first timers especially find the silent machine a lot easier to cope with
dragula13

hey, iv just switched to using the stealth rotaries as iv equired carpal tunnel over the years and really needed something lighter than my irons, so far im really impressed with them, i can achieve perfect lines and they colour amazing and most important no wrist pain, only one problem with them so far i pretty much only use magnums for shading and colour and while shading sometimes the needle jumps around in the tip a little and snags against the skin, i tried adding an extra elastic band to steady it but it did nothing, magnu do you have this problem? any help would be awsome.
magnu

never had any problems with the original machines but one of the new ones had a weak return spring (under the armature bar at the front) a slight stretch and it was running fine with no more snagging in the skin
I use plastic tips for the mags (saves the white and yellow from discolouring) and don't have any problem with the needle jumping about. If you are using metal tips they may be slightly worn allowing too much play.
dragula13

yeh i think their the newer version only them like a week, got them from world wide tattoo supplies, yeh im using ss tips and most are pretty old so that cud be the problem, how long you reckon the these things will last man? dont want one of em blowing up mid tattoo, wondering wether i shud fork out for a back up set, cheers for the help man Smile
gassa farrell

if youhaveing bother with your mags jumping out the tip mate try getting your self a couple of boxed mag tips you dont get the needle jumping about so much as you do with open mag tips  and your right to think on getting  a back up set  its a good idea coz any machine can go wrong any time its so much easier if you can just pick another one up rather than haveing to fanny on with a bust machine
magnu

Had my original machines which came from Global supplies for about 7 years used all day every day and the bearing is the only thing that has worn out other than that not had a single problem with either of them. A back up is always a good idea tho
dragula13

yeh im accually using open mag tips never had a problem on my other machines with snagging but ill definetly be trying some box mag tips, im really just getting used to them, gotta say they do make an excellent job of lining, 7 years? didnt think they had been around that long, cheers for the info tho, good to hear they are reliable machines.
gassa farrell

you may find mate that the box mag tips hold a lot more ink too not like the open ones and they do the same job but better and thier great for tribal they just seem to pile the ink in with the open tips your dipping for ever with the boxed tip you dont need to dip as much they have a good ink well in them so you can get more ink in your tattoos saveing you a lot of time too
Billy

what about Laser Rotary Tattoo Machine are they any good
dragula13

cheers gassa yeh i jus orded a load of disposable box tips from tattoo rite, hope it fixes the problem.
aint sure about the laser ones, was gonna order one as they look nice but thought id go with the stealth as i heard good things, might get a laser next, personaly i dont think there will be much difference.
magnu

As far as I can see Laser and Stealth machines are nearly identical may be a slight weight difference but not much else
dun scratchin

i like the stigma bizarre i got, its great for large colour and tribal and i could easily adapt to lining with it full time
i would use these completely but at 275 a gun a full set up would work out as much as a neuma set up
so for now its a back up for when my coil machines need tuning which happens a lot now im full time(i think i got it sussed now) Surprised
dragula13

yeh i took a look at the stigma's but a 5mm stroke sounds a little scary lol, think id be terrified to try line with one of those, could see the benefit of for colouring though.
well im a total convert to rotarys now, tattooed all day today and no pain what so ever, i used to laugh at people who used rotary and called them prison guns now look at me lol, looks like ill be putting my customs on ebay will be a shame to see em go but cant see them gettin much use from now on.
dun scratchin

yes the long stroke looks scary but there is a kind of back spring cushain thats adjustable so i dont think it penetrates that deep
i lined with it and after a while i got a "feel" for the depth and with such a long stroke working off the needle was very precise
if i had one set for colour and one set for lining id use them all the time
ive experimented with it shading but dont find it as good as coils
but i hear the neumas are good
so ill carry on with coils for now and put up with the tuning issues Evil or Very Mad
dragula13

yeh iv heard good things about the neuma's but the price is a little outa my range atm, also iv heard the compressors are extremly loud which also put me off them.
lining and colouring iv found no problems while using the stealth but for getting a smooth gradient with b&g iv found it kinda hard. has anyone heard anything about the taptat machines? or the swash drives? they definetly look interesting.
gassa farrell

no need to worry about the drop just bring your tube down a little more so your not useing most of the drop
dun scratchin

i tried that but the needle doesnt run straight and the needle tips hit the tip
you just got to adapt to a long stroke
gassa farrell

when you really think about it tattooing started with bits of bambo then walter riley inveted the coil tattoo machine so most tattoos were tattooed with the coil machine black&grey tattoos color tattoos and tribal have all be done and to the best effect with coil machines its going to take a long time before some one can come up with a machine that can do all the efects of a coil machine just think over the years all those tattooist apart from a few have been tattooing with coil machines all the best ones used coil machines it could be they found them best evan paul rogers made a machine called the revolution  machine years back and its still used today by lots of artists but they all have found a coil machine better because you can put thin springs on for a very soft shader or a thick spring for a hard hitting color packer  a medium spring for fast outlines you cant do any of that with a rotary or any other machine but a coil machine just a thought on it onmy behalf
Billy

so if you cant change the set up how come some on ebay are liners and some a shaders
gassa farrell

on most rotorys i have used you have a cam on the top you have a small cam for outline and a bigger one for shader or colors the bigger cam give you more drop the little one less drop but im going back some time we just used to slow them down for color and speed them up a bit for outlines but the spit ink every were its up your nose and in your eyes lol ive alaways found coil machines have more for what you need you have a lot more choice on setting them up all my machines all 26 of them have started off as liners then when thier run in they get used as shaders
gassa farrell

ive been a round tattooing some time now and up to now i can only name three top tattooist that used rotarys mate  cash cooper  big jock of kings cross  and dave ross who did use them then went on to coil machines i dont think it makes much diference what you use mate its the end result that counts all machines take time to get used too just coil machines have been going a lot longer and have stood the test of time
gassa farrell

just a thought on the subject of machines  it might be a bit before some of yous time but can any of you rember ac machines  meaning they ran on ac power not dc like today back in the 70tys i have a few of them you could buy power packs that switched from ac to dc  then dc machine had no cap so you had a bloody big spark ac machines had no spark and would go all day and not evan get warm  great lol
Billy

70's man gaz i wasnt even a tingle in my dads pants Laughing
gassa farrell

lol long time ago mate im 47 now lol i got in totattooing around the age of 14 me and kev turner  when he lived over this end of the water  thats who put me onto the ac machines lol from d.t.s it was run by old goerge daveis  at that time hel be dust now lol
dun scratchin

i got some ac machines i got from tf international(fully autoclavable) Laughing  about 15 years ago they still run ok i didnt use them much
when i first started scratching
same as newbies now not realising how much there is to learn and the consequences Twisted Evil
gassa farrell

lol i know the ones your on about i had one thier built on the cindy ray style machine she was a top notch tattooist from  the land of oz lol  great tattooist she was they use a lot of ac machines in japan for thier work because theres no burning out front springs so they last a lot longer  you must be a member of the celtic club of wales then if you have one of those ac machines lol i got my member ship when i bought my machine from them
blinky

the Stealth rotary machines are a piece of junk almost, the swing arm wears out easily and too much grind on the bearing which is like grinding little metal particles into your customers tattoo while you are tattooing them. Stay away from them until they fix them, but most likely not because they are just a supplier and not an artist.

so far the best rotary on the list is the new Swash rotary machines from Unimax Supply.
clinton9

I have a stealth rotary tattoo machine do you guys have any tip s on use? it seems to exseed out the tip fairly FAR?and whats the best voltage for lining?

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